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Monday, February 19, 2007

Memo: The Earth Doesn’t Move

Kansas’ government school science curriculum is no longer the laughing stock of the nation and the world; the dubious honor may next be bestowed on Georgia. Georgia state representative Ben Bridges has circulated a memo to other state lawmakers around the country encouraging his colleagues to challenge the teaching of evolution (while promoting of I.D. creation “science”) in court by stating that evolution is not science but part of another religion thus violating the separation of church and state. This in itself is nothing too unusual; those who promote I.D. have made that argument before. Bridges memo goes even further: evolution is part of an ancient Jewish conspiracy! Obviously, this did not sit well with the Anti-defamation League.

Just when I thought this story couldn’t get nuttier, the memo has links to a site called fixedearth.com as its authority. Fixedearth.com not only takes on well-established scientific theories of evolution and the big bang (what the site calls “big bangism”) but the very fact that...the earth revolves around the sun! According to the site the earth DOES NOT MOVE and the sun REVOLVES AROUND THE EARTH. No shit.

Marshall Hall, the sites creator and former government school teacher (scary), believes that the idea that the earth revolves around the sun is also a giant conspiracy to discredit the bible. Hall references two bible verses “The world is established and cannot move” (Psalm 93:1) and “He hangeth the Earth upon nothing” (Job 26:7). Following these verses, Hall goes on to say:


The Bible and all real evidence confirms that this is precisely what He did, and indeed:

The Earth is not rotating...nor is it going around the sun.

The universe is not one ten trillionth the size we are told.

Today’s cosmology fulfills an anti-Bible religious plan disguised as "science".

The whole scheme from Copernicanism to Big Bangism is a factless lie.

Those lies have planted the Truth-killing virus of evolutionism in every aspect of man’s "knowledge" about the Universe, the Earth, and Himself.

I can’t say that I am all that surprised that there are such people out there who have not left the dark ages. What is a little surprising and very disturbing is the idea that a U.S. lawmaker on any level would listen to moon bats such as Marshall Hall to put forward an agenda in government schools. Had I stumbled across this site myself, I would have thought it to be a spoof to mock creationists because I know that most creationists would never question the idea that the earth revolves around the sun. Most creationists would not take Psalm 93:1 and Job 26:7 literally and would say that the descriptions made in these verses were based on the understanding people had of the universe at that time (which is a lame explanation if you ask me seeing that they were supposedly authored by the creator of the universe). In a previous post, I wrote the following statement:

Since we don’t want to offend the fragile faith of the fundies, why not allow them to substitute their own version of reality in all the other sciences? Clearly the astronomers don’t know what they are talking about either because the Bible clearly stated that the earth was flat and that the sun revolves around the earth. We ought to burn all books written which contradict the Bible. This will be no small task: we pretty much have to rid ourselves of everything we have learned about biology, geology, astronomy, anthropology, psychiatry, history, mathematics, medicine, and more.
Little did I know at the time I wrote that statement that there were fundies with influence setting out to do just that. Could there ever be a better argument for school privatization and school choice than this?

Hat tip: Nealz Nuze

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12 Comments:

Blogger T. F. Stern said...

What I have to say would not fit within the scope of "public schools" and the subjects taught, or rather, the subjects which they fail to get across to students. If the public schools can't teach basic math or language skills why should we expect or trust them to properly teach things which are of a spiritual nature?

I do not agree that the scriptures are at odds with true science. The laws which govern movement and motion are part of what is known as Truth; that which is now, was in the beginning and will be in the eternities. There can be no violation of those laws within the context of the Creation, to believe such is folly.

9:38 PM  
Blogger Stephen Littau said...

T.F., I don't want government schools teaching anything of a 'spiritual nature' but I don't think teaching students about the solar system is too much to ask (at least the fact that the earth revolves around the sun).

Based on your comment I'm a little confused...you don't buy into this fixed earth nonsense do you?

12:54 PM  
Blogger T. F. Stern said...

Stephen,

No, I have a deep respect for the teachings which include the idea of a solar system with planets which have their established orbits around the sun. I will send you something via email that you might enjoy reading.

1:29 PM  
Blogger The Ridger, FCD said...

Truly mind-boggling. If only there was some way those folks could get their own little country. Can we club together a buy them a big island somewhere? See how long they last without science?

1:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

scientist say were on an axil and we rotate around the sun spinning, even if we go around the sun why does the north star never move. the north star has been where it was for a year in the exact same spot outside my window. If we move around the sun it doesnt make sence why the star stays because im not directly under that star neiter. make a model of the plannet doing the orbit thing around the sun and have a star sitting where it is. No matter if that star Is on our axis it should not be seen all year in one spot cause we move around the sun...(As scientist say) The north start isnt moving around the whole sun with the earth now is it??? hmm (613) 698-7099 Ive been studying this for a bit and I strongly think that our planet doesnt move. And if astonaughts saw our planet move it would be because the moon is moving. I belive the sun moves around our planet and its not a star...the sun is a huge bal of gas and the stars have rock right thats why when there shooting start know as comets they have some sort of rock

9:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

scientist say were on an axil and we rotate around the sun spinning, even if we go around the sun why does the north star never move. the north star has been where it was for a year in the exact same spot outside my window. If we move around the sun it doesnt make sence why the star stays because im not directly under that star neiter. make a model of the plannet doing the orbit thing around the sun and have a star sitting where it is. No matter if that star Is on our axis it should not be seen all year in one spot cause we move around the sun...(As scientist say) The north start isnt moving around the whole sun with the earth now is it??? hmm (613) 698-7099 Ive been studying this for a bit and I strongly think that our planet doesnt move. And if astonaughts saw our planet move it would be because the moon is moving. I belive the sun moves around our planet and its not a star...the sun is a huge bal of gas and the stars have rock right thats why when there shooting start know as comets they have some sort of rock

9:15 PM  
Anonymous Dave said...

I`m not surprised you wanted to be Anonymous.

It is not the orbit of the Earth around the Sun which (from a fixed position on Earth) gives us the impression of the stars moving, it is the rotation of the the planet we are standing on.

The North Star is situated directly above the northern axis of Earth. Thus, as Earth spins, Polaris does not appear to move from its polar position. Hence the given name Polaris.

Stars ARE NOT made of rock. 'Shooting Stars' have no connection with stars at all. The bright trail of light is caused by tiny bits of dust and rock called meteoroids falling into the Earth's atmosphere and burning up.

6:50 AM  
Blogger Splatcat said...

Dave... facts will never be alowed to get in the way of a religious point of view :-)

1:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks all. You have fixed my mistakes within that Anonymous belief. I have corrected my facts

1:25 PM  
Anonymous Debbie said...

I believe the bible. I believe that God used people as instruments to write his divine word, but it's been changed somewhere along the line. There have been things omitted and we will never know the whole truth. We can only read, and have faith that we know enough to live right. I struggle daily trying to fit the bible and science (as we have been taught) together and many things clash. A couple of days ago, I found a site that declared the sun revolves around the earth and it quoted over 60 bible scriptures to prove it. I was shocked when I first read it and after a while I found myself trying to make some sense of it. This is a subject that I can, personally, never prove or disprove since I am not a scientist or astronomer. The one thing that I keep pondering though is the fact that scientists can come up with just about anything and the general public will know no different. There is much room for conspiracies, coverups and such. We know what they want us to know and nothing else. Just think....what if?

11:07 AM  
Blogger AJoshua244 said...

I have a question then. Now "theoretically" the earth is rotating at 1000 mph and orbiting around the sun at 67000 mph but the North Star never moves. How could that possibly be?

On that point alone I can assure you that the Earth is not moving.

7:56 AM  
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